Not even Wilma — that's Hurricane Wilma — terrified the septuagenarian widow as much as those who promised to put a new roof on her home of 49 years.
Let us present here for your review and commentary the chronology of events that document the shameful acts of this South Florida roofing company.
October 24, 2005, Monday: Hurricane Wilma hit Fort Lauderdale with devastating fury.
February 25, 2006, Saturday: Patricia Niesel, the hurricane victim, gave a $5,500 check to Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc. as a down payment demanded by Pro-Line for a roof replacement job quoted to cost a total of $11,997.86. The check was cashed promptly and without delay.
June 24, 2006, Saturday: My email to Paul and Je DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:19 PM
To: 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'deepscubadive@yahoo.com';
'motoryacht1@yahoo.com'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: Patricia Niesel
Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
a Florida corporation, License # CCC1326537
Mr. Paul A. DeBeer, President
Mr. Joe DeBeer, Vive President Sales
3529 Brink Circle, Bonita Springs, FL 34134
Reference: Patricia Niesel’s home at 4411 SW 24 Street, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33317
Dear Messrs. DeBeer:
Mrs. Niesel has asked me to communicate with you.
On February 25, 2006, Mrs. Niesel gave your company a check in the amount of $5,500 as a down payment for a roofing job for which you quoted her a total price of $11,997.86. The check cleared on February 28.
To date you have neither scheduled the job nor given Mrs. Niesel any indication when the job will be scheduled.
It is my understanding the permit for this job was issued by the City of Fort Lauderdale on or about the week of June 12, 2006. Mrs. Niesel had telephoned 877-306-7663 and was so advised by your representative in the Fort Lauderdale office.
Inasmuch as we again have entered the hurricane season and time is of the essence, I will appreciate your letting me know via return email forthwith and without delay when you will commence this job.
Thank you very much for your cooperation.
Sincerely,
Heinz Dinter, PhD
June 25, 2006, Sunday: Joe DeBeer's email to me.
From: Joe DeBeer [mailto:motoryacht1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:28 AM
To:
HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com
Subject: Re: Patricia Niesel
Thank you very much for you letter, I am afarid I have recieved this email in error, I run the west coast and my brother runs the east coast, So I am not aware of any customers over there, But I will check into this for you and get back with you as soon as possiable, if you would like to contact me you may do so at 239-272-3554 and I will do my best to help you, I will say that the east coast permitting threw the building department is a mess, and very timely delays are do to them, but I can not say for sure, so give me a few days and I will get you some answers, If you where my customer here on the west cost, you would be done by now and have a smile on your face! Please give me a few days and I will check into this for you and respond asap! thanks for your letter Joey DeBeer
June 25, 2006, Sunday: My email to Joe DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:21 PM
To: 'Joe DeBeer'; 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com';
'deepscubadive@yahoo.com'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)Subject:
RE: Patricia Niesel
Thank you, Joe, for your prompt response. I appreciate it.
Is your brother Paul A. DeBeer, the president of Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.? I assume your brother will look into this matter because he, too, received my email.
Inasmuch as we were informed by one of your employees that the permit has been issued, we should no longer be held back by the Fort Lauderdale Building Department.
Please let me know if we can be of assistance and look forward to the completion of this job ASAP.
Heinz Dinter
June 26, 2006, Monday: My email to Paul DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:54 PM
To: Paul Allen DeBeer (
deepscubadive@yahoo.com)
Cc: Pat Niesel (DNiesel@hotmail.com);
'motoryacht1@yahoo.com'
Subject: Patricia Niesel
Mr. Paul Allen DeBeer, President
Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
Good afternoon, Mr. DeBeer.
I was looking forward to hearing from you today.
As I advised you in my email of June 24, Mrs. Niesel had been informed by your Fort Lauderdale office staff that the permit had been issued with the permit number 06-049-77.
However, I learned today that no permit with this permit number has been issued.
Also, there appears to be no record of your company, Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc., with Broward County.
Please let me know where we stand with this project.
Heinz Dinter
June 27, 2006, Tuesday: Joe DeBeer's email to me.
From: Joe DeBeer [mailto:motoryacht1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 5:04 PM
To:
HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com
Cc: Paul alan DeBeer
Subject: Re: Patricia Niesel
Good afternoon to you too,
Yes we are too, registered with them, lic#CCC1326537 and have been so for a while, and I am great standing with all who do business with me, I am not , Involved with the west coast, in any way, My brother ,the owner of this company, handles all that goes on there, But for you I have spend some time getting to the bottom of all this, and here it goes, First ,The Secretary has had eye surgery,and has been gone for a week or so, god help them without her there, and the phone is out with sprint,Repair order has been in now 2 weeks) and yes your your permit was applied for and was rejected due to No Fire rating and no N.O.A. rating on ridge vent system, so we gathered those two documents and fax them ,and received notice it was ready to be picked up,
When arriving, to pick up permit was informed that it was given to the wrong person and we now have to start all over, even though they know who they gave it too!?
I have also been informed that you have just within the last 30 days went to contract and your file is just over 30 days old? If so please tell me what time table you had in mind and i will pass it along and see if i can speed the process up for you!
Roof replacements in your part of the country are harder than any other place in the whole U.S. to receive, they are very short staffed and have HUGH attitudes to match,
It is not just go file a permit , you have to show proof, of U.L testing on all material before issuing a permit, the price we charged you has to be disclosed and the pitch of the roof ,etc. etc. and it does go on and on. I would think, that it would take 30 days for permitting and material special orders to be placed. and than a 30 days to work your way to the top of the list, and 4 day to complete the work, bare in mind every day it rains or has greater chance of 40% of rain,adds another day to your wait, I will not open a roof up unless it is lower than that, for insurance purposes, and liability,. I hope this helps you with this understanding of how difficult this really is, If you will have some Patience and some understanding , I am sure your turn will come soon, Just bare with us , If you can not wait , for some reason , please let me know and I will speak to my brother about a refund of moneys unspent in your file, But please don't miss-understand it is my brothers call, not mine, and this is a little job, 11K if we refund the unspent money and you started all over with some other contractor, would you get the best job , like we do? would it be more likely your Wait will be longer with a smaller company? Most great contractors are booked Months in advanced, and I would be very careful with anyone who said they could do it right away? I was very busy before Charlie hit and after I was overloaded, we where just about to see day light and take some time off for ourselves and Wilma hit, and yes we are still in overload, I have enjoyed theses letters to you and welcome your responce! have agreat day. Joey DeBeer
June 28, 2006, Wednesday: My email to Paul and Joe Debeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:32 AM
To: 'Joe DeBeer'; Paul Allen DeBeer (
deepscubadive@yahoo.com)
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: RE: Patricia Niesel
Mr. Paul Allen DeBeer, President
Mr. Joe DeBeer, Vice President
Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
Dear Messrs. DeBeer:
Mr. Joe DeBeer’s email dated June 27, 2006 prevents me from responding in detail because I am unable to fully understand the details of his message.
Here’s one point of contradiction: In his June 25 email Joe states “I run the west coast and my brother runs the east coast.” In his June 27 email Joe states, “I am not involved with the west coast in any way; my brother, the owner of this company, handles all that goes on there.”
Let us cut through the chaff and deal with what is at issue: Patricia Niesel needs her home’s roof repaired and you promised to do the job in a reasonable, timely and professional manner. Pat gave you a good-faith deposit of $5,500 on April 25, 2006.
As you know, Pat is a 74-year old widow who is not qualified to deal with complicated business matters; that’s why she asked for help.
Gentlemen, we will work with you and cooperate with you if you, too, will act in good faith. Please give us a date certain when you will complete this job, fulfill your commitment, and you will have a grateful customer on your side who will thank you for a job well done.
Time is of the essence. Please respond with a firm commitment via email not later than Thursday, June 29, 2006.
Sincerely,
Heinz Dinter, PhD
June 30, 2006, Friday: My email to Paul and Joe DeBeer
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:05 AM
To: Paul Allen DeBeer (deepscubadive@yahoo.com); 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com';
'motoryacht1@yahoo.com'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: Patricia Niesel
Mr. Paul Allen DeBeer, President
Mr. Joe DeBeer, Vice President
Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
Dear Messrs. DeBeer:
Your failure to respond to my email of Wednesday, June 28, 2006 and your past actions and representations prompts Mrs. Niesel to demand the return of her deposit of $5,500 and terminate any and all relations with Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
My efforts in pursuit of truth and justice are not limited to sharing the facts of experiences in my blog. The news media, including but not limited to The News-Press, Sun-Sentinel, The Miami Herald, the South Florida Business Journal, will receive all information and materials should we fail in securing your cooperation.
Of course, this matter will also be turned over to the appropriate authorities should you not resolve this matter in a fair and just manner.
I have been requested by Mrs. Niesel to issue the following demand to you: Return the deposit of $5,500 to be received by Mrs. Niesel not later than Monday, July 3, 2006 and to be delivered to 4411 SW 24 Street, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33317. You must confirm your honoring this demand in an email to me at
hdinter@grandlifestyle.com and to be sent by you not later than 4:00 pm, Friday, June 30, 2006.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. PLEASE GOVERN YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY.
Sincerely,
Heinz Dinter, PhD
June 30, 2006, Friday: My email to Paul and Joe DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:07 PM
To: 'HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com'; Paul Allen DeBeer (deepscubadive@yahoo.com); 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com';
'motoryacht1@yahoo.com'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: RE: Patricia Niesel
Mr. Paul Allen DeBeer, President
Mr. Joe DeBeer, Vice President
Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
Dear Messrs. DeBeer:
I am desperately attempting in a good-faith effort to communicate with you, to wit:
At 3:09 pm I telephoned 877-306-7663 and left a message for Paul DeBeer requesting he return my call today or he leaves us no choice to send a certified letter requesting the return of Mrs. Niesel’s $5,500 deposit and reporting this matter to the appropriate authorities.
At 3:12 pm I telephoned 239-765-7663. This telephone number has been “temporarily discontinued.”
At 3:13 pm I telephoned 239-272-3554 and left a message for Joe DeBeer requesting he return my call today or he leaves us no choice to send a certified letter requesting the return of Mrs. Niesel’s $5,500 deposit and reporting this matter to the appropriate authorities.
At 3:29 pm Joe DeBeer returned my call. He reiterated that the Fort Lauderdale office is not his responsibility and refers me to his brother, Paul DeBeer.
At 3:43 pm Paul DeBeer called. He will expedite this matter and call me on Thursday, July 6 to confirm a schedule which should call for a completion of the job within three weeks, but not later than July 31.
Please note: I had begun writing this email before both of you called me. Hence, consider this email as a record of what has transpired today and reflects a record of our understanding.
Many thanks for calling and your promise to get this job done before the end of July.
Pat will be relieved to hear the good news.
July 3, 2006, Monday: My email to Paul DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 2:19 PM
To: Paul Allen DeBeer (
deepscubadive@yahoo.com)
Subject: Patricia Niesel
Paul, just to follow up on our conversation today: You will go forward to do Pat’s job and try to do it within the next two weeks.
Please ignore the June 30 letter you will receive.
If any problem needs taking care of, call me and we take care of it.
Heinz
July 25, 2006, Tuesday: My email to Paul and Joe DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:42 PM
To: Paul Allen DeBeer (deepscubadive@yahoo.com); 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com';
'motoryacht1@yahoo.com'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: FW: Patricia Niesel
Good morning, Paul.
This email is for the record.
On Tuesday, July 11, you telephoned me from your Fort Lauderdale office and confirmed the job is scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday, July 18 and 19.
Since then repeated calls to you and attempts by Pat to meet with you at your office failed. You did not return any of my calls.
For example, Leslie’s assurance to Pat that you will be in your office beginning 2:00 pm, Tuesday, July 25 turned out to be incorrect. Pat went to your office and no one was there. Etc., etc.
Leslie told Pat that the permit was posted on the property and acted surprised when Pat told her that there is no permit posted and Leslie tried to convince Pat that the permit was posted. Paul, there really is no need for such antics.
I left you a message this morning, to wit:
Pat needs a contract with itemized list of all materials and services required by the SBA.
There is no permit posted at Pat’s property. Pat needs three copies of the building permit for the lender/insurer.
Pat needs proof of liability insurance required by the lender SBA .
Pat needs the paperwork she left at your office returned to her and have your and Pat’s signature notarized.
Any further delays coupled with inconsistencies in your and Leslie’s representations jeopardize Pat’s status with lender and insurer.
Heavy rains have penetrated the interior of the home, part of the ceiling caved in, and mold is creating a most severe situation.
Paul, why? I am very disappointed — and Pat is devastated. We definitely did not expect this type of business relationship.
Heinz
August 1, 2006, Tuesday: My email to Paul and Joe DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:34 AM
To: Paul Allen DeBeer (deepscubadive@yahoo.com); 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com';
'motoryacht1@yahoo.com'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: Patricia Niesel
Paul DeBeer and Joe DeBeer,
Please be advised of our decision — based on our utter frustration caused by your conduct — to turn our files, including numerous supporting notes, over to the appropriate authorities with copies to The News-Press, the Sun-Sentinel and The Miami Herald on Thursday, August 3, 2006 unless you can show good cause why we should not do so.
I am now tired of your many empty, false, and self-serving promises. You won’t even take my telephone calls. Frankly, I have never witnessed business practices as those carried out by you under the name Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
August 4, 2006, Friday: My email to Paul and Joe DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:38 AM
To: Paul Allen DeBeer (deepscubadive@yahoo.com); 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com';
'motoryacht1@yahoo.com'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: Patricia Niesel
Messrs. Paul DeBeer and Joe DeBeer,
Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
For the record, it is now Friday and your promises continue to be empty, deliberately misleading promises.
The problems identified in the re-tag notice remain uncorrected.
I telephoned your Fort Lauderdale office at 11:04 am and Paul’s cell phone at 11:06 am. No one answered either phone so I left a message requesting a call back to let me know the status of this job. No one called back.
August 4, 2006, Friday: Joe DeBeer's email to me.
From: Joe DeBeer [mailto:
motoryacht1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:14 PM
To:
HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com
Cc: Paul alan DeBeer
Subject: Re: Patricia Niesel
Do not write to me at my email address, again , or i will report you to the authorities,
Your problems are on the east coast and i am on the west coast and have NOTHING at to do with the east coast, at all, respectfully Joe DeBeer
August 4, 2006, Friday: My email to Joe DeBeer with copy to Paul DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:
HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:09 PM
To: 'Joe DeBeer'
Cc: 'Paul alan DeBeer'; 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com'; 'joe@prolineconstruction1.com'; Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com):
Subject: RE: Patricia Niesel
Dear Mr. Joe DeBeer:
You are an official/officer/owner/employee/agent of Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc. and also the brother of Paul DeBeer, president of the corporation, and you have in the past been personally involved in this matter. Therefore, we have the right communicating with you unless you obtain a restraining order from a judge.
My including you in communications re the job your company contracted for is, for one, intended to prevent anyone from claiming of not being advised of your company’s handling of this matter.
I welcome your reporting me to the authorities; it will eliminate my doing so.
Here’s a simple and quick solution: Pro-Line does what has been promised many times and complete the job on Mrs. Niesel’s home.
Let me take this opportunity to document a few facts:
When the workmen were doing the work that resulted in the red-tag notice, they admitted that their nail gun was not working properly.
Yesterday, Thursday, August 3, someone in a white truck arrived at Pat’s house at approximately 5:30 pm. Was it Paul? He climbed onto the roof and doing something on the roof. He made a mess and then tossed a milk carton containing tar into the recycling bin.
The nails on the roof are sticking out.
We are being kept in the dark. Our telephone call are not being returned.
Again, why don’t you and your brother make sure promises are kept and the job is completed?
Sincerely,
Heinz Dinter
August 6, 2006, Sunday: My email to Joe DeBeer with copy to Paul DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:
HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:09 PM
To:
joe@prolineconstruction1.com ;
motoryacht1@yahoo.com
Cc:
paul@prolineconstruction1.com ; Paul Allen DeBeer (
deepscubadive@yahoo.com) ; Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: For the Record: Mrs. Patricia Niesel
Mr. Joe DeBeer, V.P. Sales
Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
Dear Mr. DeBeer:
Further to your email communication of August 4, 2006 in which you demanded I do not communicate with you regarding Pro-Line’s contract with Mrs. Niesel for the repair of her home’s roof, the victim of Hurricane Wilma. To wit: “Do not write to me at my email address, again, or i will report you to the authorities.”
Inasmuch as your company’s website (
http://www.prolineconstruction1.com/) presents you to the public as a corporate officer with the title “V.P. Sales” (I am taking the liberty of concluding that “V” stands for “Vice” and “P” stands for “President”, turning the acronym into a corporate title to be known as such by the public) and Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc. is presented to the public as “Family owned and proudly serving your community”, I am puzzled, flabbergasted and confused by your desperate attempt to stop communication with the public in general and customers in particular who have handed over thousands of dollars to Pro-Line, expected your company to honor its promises and contractual commitments, and get the job done in a timely and satisfactory manner to assure an inspection by the authorities resulting in “passing with flying colors”. As you will recall you accepted $5,500 from Mrs. Niesel on February 25, 2006. What is the status today? Your work has not yet passed inspection. When will the job be completed?
On July 27 your crew worked on the roof for the first time. The inspection by Fort Lauderdale authorities resulted in a red tag: your work flunked the inspection on numerous points. On August 3, a one-man effort with messy results (was it your brother Paul who climbed onto the roof?) was observed and reported on August 4. Another one-man effort was observed on Saturday, August 5 at approximately 7:28 pm: one of your people (employee?) arrived in a Pro-Line marked truck and climbed onto the roof with his roommate (he represented he is not working for Pro-Line) holding the ladder.
If you as a corporate officer demand members of the public, especially those who are your customers and have given your “Family owned and proudly serving your community” company thousands of dollars up-front not communicate with 50% of the corporate officers (your brother Paul represents the remaining 50% wearing the hat labeled “President”) then there must be others who can and will communicate with members of the community you assure to be “proudly serving”.
One other representative/employee of Pro-Line is Ms. Leslie Maloney. Unfortunately, in tune with the practice of the management she reports to, the majority of telephone calls to the company (877-306-7663 and 954-922-8909) goes straight into voicemail and, sadly, goes no further because these calls are not returned. Calls to your brother Paul’s cellphone at 239-634-7232 suffer the same fate.
Well, where should and will those turn who crave for “Customer Satisfaction is #1 Priority” (that’s what you promise on your website)?
You let the public know of Pro-Line’s membership in several organization for the purpose of gaining the confidence and trust of the public (or is it something else?). Would it then not be reasonable to suggest your members pitch in and accept oral and written communications on your behalf — and give straight and honest answers?
Let us refresh your memory and list these membership organizations here:
Building Trades Association; Consumer Fraud Awareness; BBB (Better Business Bureau?); National Roofing & Sheet Metal Contractors Association of America.
I will gladly do the research and dig up names of officials, telephone numbers, fax numbers, email address, and mailing addresses. Please let me know if you concur.
One other puzzling fact: The Florida Department of State, Division of Corporations has no record of you, Joe DeBeer. Why not?
While on the subject, how did you and brother Paul (presuming there’s no one else owning and/or managing your company) amass “over 20 years of experience” as told to the public on your website when the public record clearly documents your roofing company came into being less than two years ago when it was registered with the Division of Corporation on August 18, 2004?
Joe, why don’t you and your brother Paul live up to your promise of “Customer Satisfaction is #1 Priority” and your website representation of being “Experienced — Responsive — Reliable” and finish the roof of Mrs. Niesel’s home, the septuagenarian widow who has suffered greatly at the hands of Hurricane Wilma’s devastating force and Pro-Line’s shock-inducing and self-serving business practices, and who wants to live in her home again.
Sincerely,
Heinz Dinter, PhD
PS: One final question. Who are your satisfied customers? A blog inviting them to step forward will give us the answers.
August 7, 2006, Monday: Joe DeBeer's email to me.
From: Joe DeBeer [mailto:motoryacht1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:40 AM
To:
HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com:
Subject: Re: For the Record: Mrs. Patricia Niesel
STOP writing to my email address this is none of my business!
August 7, 2006, Monday: My email to Joe DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:12 AM
To: 'Joe DeBeer'
Cc: Pat Niesel (
DNiesel@hotmail.com)
Subject: RE: For the Record: Mrs. Patricia Niesel
Joe, I will gladly honor your request and not communicate with you anymore — including re matters pertaining to Pro-Line business — if and only if you no longer are represented to the public as a corporate officer of Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc.
Of course, as suggested before, you have the option of seeking a restraining order from a judge of competent jurisdiction.
I repeat my appeal to you and your brother Paul: Please complete satisfactorily and acceptable to the Broward County authorities the roofing job on Mrs. Niesel’s home.
August 7, 2006, Monday: Joe DeBeer's email to me.
From: Joe DeBeer [mailto:motoryacht1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:52 PM
To:
HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com:
Subject: RE: For the Record: Mrs. Patricia Niesel
All I am saying to you is I have no control of what happen on the east coast, you need to get in touch with my brother Paul, I am in fort Myers beach and a Run a perfect ship here, with no complaints or beefs, and have over 300 completed roofs here.
I am not trying to be mean, i just cant help you with your east coast problems other than call my brother and compain to him . respectfully Joey DeBeer
August 7, 2006, Monday: My email to Joe DeBeer.
From: Heinz Dinter, PhD [mailto:HDinter@GrandLifestyle.com]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:18 PM
To: 'Joe DeBeer'
Cc: Paul Allen DeBeer (deepscubadive@yahoo.com); Pat Niesel (DNiesel@hotmail.com); 'paul@prolineconstruction1.com';
'joe@prolineconstruction1.com'
Subject: RE: For the Record: Mrs. Patricia Niesel
Joe, the claims in your email do not limit your corporate responsibility and liability to what happens on the west coast of Florida. You are “V.P. Sales” of Pro-Line Roofing & Construction, Inc. As long as you are a corporate officer and present yourself as such to the public (see your website,
http://www.prolineconstruction1.com/) you are liable for what the corporation does anywhere in the world, including Timbuktu.
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